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On Orbit => Space Shuttle Mission Simulator (tm) => Topic started by: pheberer on April 05, 2008, 06:16:29 AM

Title: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: pheberer on April 05, 2008, 06:16:29 AM
Admin has a link (http://shuttlepayloads.jsc.nasa.gov/training/pdf/DPSj4.pdf) for a training manual from NASA.  The link no longer works.

The manual is: "NASA GPC Ops Manual" it's 239 pages, explaining the GPC interaction, modes, screens, codes, etc.

I'm hoping someone has a copy that they can send me or have admin put it in a download.  I can really use the help. 

Please.
Peter
 
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: Admin on April 05, 2008, 07:02:54 PM
Thanks for the heads up! NASA has the nasty habit of moving these files around so we cannot guarantee them.

We cannot post ANYTING from NASA - that would be potentially infringing their copyright. Sorry.

If anybody has an active link to the GPC Ops manual, then please post it and I'll update the links.

Thank you!
/Admin
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: general58 on April 06, 2008, 05:52:41 AM
Pheberer,
I just realized that I had downloaded the manual. Let me know how to get it to you.
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: luron on April 06, 2008, 06:14:34 AM
general please can u send  also to me the gpc manual? thank you in advance... if is it possible by mail...
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: pheberer on April 06, 2008, 09:35:25 AM
General58,

I thank you for the offer.  Another member already has sent me the manual (actually 2 different manuals from NASA).

It's a shame NASA has broken the link.  The "NASA GPC Ops Manual" should be required reading for SSM2007.  Do you want to know what all the information is on the CRT screens?  This really helps.

I'm not sure about copyright laws so I've not mentioned my source.

Dear Admin,
Is there a way to get this manual back on this forum?  It really is a must have.

Peace & Health,
Peter
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: lforet on April 06, 2008, 10:44:33 AM
I would assume they wont mind ssm having it hosted if they cite NASA as the source. Something along the lines of "Courtsey of NASA" or "Document Copyright by NASA". Otherwise... quick letter to their press rep requesting permission to host the DPS manual should do.
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: Admin on April 06, 2008, 06:39:50 PM
This is a no-no. We have been explicitly forbidden to post any of their stuff online or distribute it in any way.

Sorry,
/Admin
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: HercMighty on April 06, 2008, 08:07:07 PM
You can download from NASA Spaceflight (http://nasaspaceflight.com). It costs a little money but you can get a lot of information from the site.
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: Admin on April 07, 2008, 12:33:15 AM
I always suggest to go to Amazon, do a search for "Space Shuttle Manuals" and buy that DVD with all the set. last time I looked, it was @US$50.

/Admin
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: OV-103 on April 07, 2008, 03:46:45 AM
Or try L2 as well guys,
I signed up for 20$ for two months, and the amount of information available is so well worth the money!

Even the mission control panel manuals are available for instance.
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: wolf68 on April 08, 2008, 04:11:52 PM
It would be nice if someone could get and post the new correct link to NASA website so that we can download the manual free ( I have been searching but no results so far). :(
Don't see the reason why we should pay for something that might be available in the official website and costs zero.
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: Admin on April 08, 2008, 04:14:26 PM
It would be nice if someone could get and post the new correct link to NASA website so that we can download the manual free ( I have been searching but no results so far). :(
Don't see the reason why we should pay for something that might be available in the official website and costs zero.

Agree. I've registered with L2 and searched their VIP forums but they don't seem to carry this particular document either. I may have missed it however.

/Admin
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: pheberer on April 08, 2008, 06:34:27 PM
Until...

So as not to violate copyright laws for the aprox. 350 page manual I was given a NASA link from for a larger almost 700 page manual (complete) or each section can be downloaded individually.  The text sure does a lot to explain what's going on, especially the CRT screens.

http://www.shuttlepresskit.com/STS-103/scom.htm

It will still be nice if the smaller manual can be located for our use.

Enjoy,
Peter

Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: Admin on April 08, 2008, 07:31:59 PM
Unfortunately this is only roughly half of the SCOM....

/Admin
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: AngelUsunov on April 08, 2008, 11:54:06 PM
I have bought the dvd, but don't know the exat name of this manual.
Could someone post what is written on the cover page so i can locate it more easily on the dvd i bought from amazon?
I hope it is on it.
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: airbusjoerg on April 24, 2008, 12:19:51 AM
I´m not able to find the "Space Shuttle Manuals"-DVD at amazon: Does anybody know another source? Does anybody have ANY hint, where I can get this stuff - seems that all links are down and I don´t want the HTML-versions, you can find on several NASA-pages.
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: harmerb on April 24, 2008, 12:35:44 AM
Where can I get this at nasaspaceflight.com?  I have searched, but with no luck.
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: Twabi2 on April 24, 2008, 02:36:05 AM
It's in the L2 section. Access is restricted to paying members, but I heard it's well worth the money (not a member myself).

-Toine
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: rdale on April 30, 2008, 08:16:15 AM
We cannot post ANYTING from NASA - that would be potentially infringing their copyright. Sorry.

There is no copyright on NASA documentation... You are permitted to host it, you just can't modify it.

You cannot take stuff from NSF L2 section, but if you can find the same documents from a non-L2 source you can use that.
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: Zenra on May 02, 2008, 02:14:05 AM
It's in the L2 section. Access is restricted to paying members, but I heard it's well worth the money (not a member myself).

-Toine

I just subscribed and have to say the content there is really something - if you can manage US$19.99 you get two months to download to your heart's content.  only problem is that there looks to be so much there I may need more than 2 months to d/l it all ;D
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: Erianerog on May 27, 2008, 04:14:40 AM
Hi im new here.
Can anyone mail me that 300pages gpc manual,or was that illegal?

Erianerog@Stofanet.dk
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: pheberer on May 27, 2008, 09:51:09 AM
Admin,

I now have a copy of this manual.  If I understand correctly you can now post it if it is not modified in any way.  If this is true then tell me where to send it to you for posting.

Please note:
I'm very computer illiterate. So please be very specific.

My best example is I've tried to get my completed mission #8 listed in the achievement list more than 4 tries with no sucess.  So I've given up on trying.  I know I completed it.  So why should you care.

The dummy.


Thanks for the heads up! NASA has the nasty habit of moving these files around so we cannot guarantee them.

We cannot post ANYTING from NASA - that would be potentially infringing their copyright. Sorry.

If anybody has an active link to the GPC Ops manual, then please post it and I'll update the links.

Thank you!
/Admin
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: Admin on May 27, 2008, 11:54:34 AM
Admin,

I now have a copy of this manual.  If I understand correctly you can now post it if it is not modified in any way.  If this is true then tell me where to send it to you for posting.

Please note:
I'm very computer illiterate. So please be very specific.

My best example is I've tried to get my completed mission #8 listed in the achievement list more than 4 tries with no sucess.  So I've given up on trying.  I know I completed it.  So why should you care.

The dummy.


What I indicated is that we cannot post any of the NASA manuals, regardless if they were or were not modified - period. So, as I mentioned before, you can put it up on any of the free file hosting services and post the link.

I cannot give you specific instructions on how to do that since the process depends on the free file hosting service and besides, that would exceed the scope of this forum. Please select one of the free file hosting services such as IGN's own http://www.fileplanet.com/publicsubmission.aspx and follow their VERY SIMPLE instructions to upload it.

Other than that, I really do not understand the "so why should you care" remark. I think it is out of place and out of spirit.

/Admin
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: pheberer on May 27, 2008, 09:28:48 PM
Admin,


(snip)
I've tried to get my completed mission #8 listed in the achievement list more than 4 tries with no success.  So I've given up on trying.  I know I completed it.  So why should you care.

The dummy.


(snip)

Other than that, I really do not understand the "so why should you care" remark. I think it is out of place and out of spirit.

/Admin

Yep, you understand perfectly why I said what I said.  It is not "out of place and out of spirit" it is out of frustration.  If you check my previous posts you will see I requested help a few times for this. 

I did get a response saying it was added but when I check the list it's not there.

Now understand that this is one fantastic program.  You all are really fast with updates and listening to us for ideas.  And it seems you all never sleep.  Your quick responses to our posts is awesome.

So please don't take my frustration on being the computer dummy personally.

Sorry!
Peter

Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: pheberer on May 27, 2008, 10:01:13 PM
Sorry again!

The mission I completed was #1 not #8.

See I can't even count right.

The Village Dummy


Admin,


(snip)
I've tried to get my completed mission #8 listed in the achievement list more than 4 tries with no success.  So I've given up on trying.  I know I completed it.  So why should you care.

The dummy.
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: Ruathan on May 29, 2008, 01:44:50 AM
DPS Dictionary, Generic, Revision J. June 13,1997

http://www.avionic-online.com/download/DPSj4.pdf

My Google-fu is strong (Oh, and 'hi')  ;D
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: pheberer on May 29, 2008, 01:56:56 AM
DPS Dictionary, Generic, Revision J. June 13,1997

http://www.avionic-online.com/download/DPSj4.pdf

My Google-fu is strong (Oh, and 'hi')  ;D

Ruathan,

My true thanks for the link for this manual.  I can only say I did try.  My computer skills are poor to say the least.

Peace & Health,
Peter
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: Admin on May 29, 2008, 01:59:42 AM
DPS Dictionary, Generic, Revision J. June 13,1997

http://www.avionic-online.com/download/DPSj4.pdf

My Google-fu is strong (Oh, and 'hi')  ;D

Thanks Ruhatan,

Link updated in the Useful Links section :)

/Admin
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: Erianerog on May 29, 2008, 03:47:15 AM
Tyvm been waiting for this :)
Title: Re: "NASA GPC Ops Manual"
Post by: svenks on May 29, 2008, 02:09:37 PM
Thanks a gogolplex - or is it Googleplex nowadays?
 :D

Sven